{"id":6557,"date":"2013-04-28T18:56:38","date_gmt":"2013-04-28T17:56:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/?p=6557"},"modified":"2013-08-12T10:54:51","modified_gmt":"2013-08-12T09:54:51","slug":"mamba-recon-stomper-karma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/mamba-recon-stomper-karma\/","title":{"rendered":"Mamba, Recon, Stomper, Karma"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over the last month or so I have had around 30 emails asking if I could do I little comparison between these boats.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6509\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/gopro-hero-3-black-edition-white-balance\/g0093532\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/G0093532.png\" data-orig-size=\"640,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"G0093532\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/G0093532.png\" src=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/G0093532.png\" alt=\"G0093532\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-6509\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/G0093532.png 640w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/G0093532-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/G0093532-400x300.png 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Having paddled the Liquid Logic Stomper, Wavesport Recon, Dagger Mamba and Jackson Karma over recent months I thought it would be quite good to gather a few statistics and thoughts in one place.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5924\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/kayaking-in-the-sun\/dsc_0150\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/DSC_0150.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,424\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5.6&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D5100&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1364648116&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;48&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;400&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.000625&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"DSC_0150\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/DSC_0150.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/DSC_0150.jpg\" alt=\"DSC_0150\" width=\"640\" height=\"424\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5924\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/DSC_0150.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/DSC_0150-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/DSC_0150-452x300.jpg 452w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Mamba 8.6<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Length: 259cm<br \/>\nWidth: 70cm<br \/>\nBoat Weight: 22kg<br \/>\nVolume: 337L<br \/>\nPaddler Weight: 79-118kg<\/p>\n<p>First Paddle Review &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/?p=5636\" title=\"2013 Dagger Mamba \u2013 First Paddle\" target=\"_blank\">Click Here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5406\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wavesport-recon-93-vs-liquid-logic-stomper-90\/unsponsored_recon_93_02\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_recon_93_02.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;3.5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;DSC-TX10&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1360502802&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.43&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;125&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0125&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"unsponsored_recon_93_02\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_recon_93_02.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_recon_93_02.jpg\" alt=\"unsponsored_recon_93_02\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5406\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_recon_93_02.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_recon_93_02-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_recon_93_02-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Recon 93<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Length: 264cm<br \/>\nWidth: 69cm<br \/>\nWeight: 24kg<br \/>\nVolume: 352L<br \/>\nPaddler Weight: Range 82-125kg<\/p>\n<p>First Paddle Review &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/?p=5063\" title=\"Wavesport Recon 93 \u2013 First Look\" target=\"_blank\">Click Here<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5155\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/liquid-logic-stomper-90-for-sale\/unsponsored_stomper1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_stomper1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"424,640\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D5100&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1355057302&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;18&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;200&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.004&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"unsponsored_stomper1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_stomper1.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_stomper1.jpg\" alt=\"unsponsored_stomper1\" width=\"424\" height=\"640\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5155\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_stomper1.jpg 424w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/unsponsored_stomper1-198x300.jpg 198w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 424px) 100vw, 424px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stomper 90<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Length: 257cm<br \/>\nWidth: 68cm<br \/>\nWeight: 22kg<br \/>\nVolume: 341L<br \/>\nPaddler Weight: Range 77-122kg<\/p>\n<p>First Paddle Review &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/?p=1678\" title=\"Liquid Logic Stomper Review\" target=\"_blank\">Click Here<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6670\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/jackson-karma-large-first-paddle\/unsponsored_karma-066\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/unsponsored_karma-066.png\" data-orig-size=\"640,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"unsponsored_karma 066\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/unsponsored_karma-066.png\" src=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/unsponsored_karma-066.png\" alt=\"unsponsored_karma 066\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-6670\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/unsponsored_karma-066.png 640w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/unsponsored_karma-066-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/unsponsored_karma-066-400x300.png 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Karma (Large)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Length: 270cm<br \/>\nWidth: 71cm<br \/>\nWeight: 22.7kg<br \/>\nVolume: 390L<br \/>\nPaddler Weight: Range 83-136kg<\/p>\n<p>First Paddle Review &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unsponsored.co.uk:\/press\/?p=6501\" title=\"Jackson Karma (Large) \u2013 First Paddle\" target=\"_blank\">Click Here<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Firstly the one I own is the Recon 93 as it fits the style of paddling I do best.  This may not be the best one for you.  With that caveat in place here we go&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Out of the four boats the Jackson Karma is both the biggest and strangely lightest for my weight it rides extremely high in the water and rides over all but the biggest of stoppers. The Karma I tried was lighter (car park lift test) than the Mamba 8.6. I find the backrest in the Karma to be really comfy but it sist very high and interferes with my spraydeck.  Getting my spraydeck onto the Karma was definitely an art.<\/p>\n<p>In comparison the Wavesport Recon and Dagger Mamba are pretty heavy (very similar to each other) but this isn&#8217;t felt on the water.  The outfitting is definitely the best in terms of function for me but the system does impact on the overall weight. Everything is rock solid.<\/p>\n<p>The Stomper sits somewhere between the Karma and the Recon\/Nomad in terms of weight. It is also the oldest in terms of design as the Mamba was updated in 2012.  I would say that the Stomper is still one of the best boats on the market and I have only just reluctantly sold mine on. The BADASS system on the Liquid Logic Stomper is super comfy but I just couldn&#8217;t get the fit spot on.  The covers for the hip pads needs to be a little longer for the Velcro to engage correctly on the cockpit rim.<\/p>\n<p>All of the boats require the paddler to really drive them to get the most out of them.  You won&#8217;t get the best out of any of the designs unless you actively edge\/lean and shift your body weight.  When you do this the boats will come alive and are fun to paddle.<\/p>\n<p>All boof and resurface well.  But the Recon and Karma boof and resurface the best followed by the Stomper and Mamba. Speed wise the Karma has it followed by the Recon. But for me the large Karma is just a little too big and bobs around too much for my liking.  I suspect that the medium Karma will be a better match for my weight.<\/p>\n<p>In all cases the suggested weight ranges need to be taken with a pinch of salt.  I would recommend that if you can that you try a couple of different sizes in each boat before you buy.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over the last month or so I have had around 30 emails asking if I could do I little comparison between these boats. 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